Five years
ago we published an in depth profile of
world renowned domain investor Frank
Schilling in a Cover
Story titled "Nice
Guy Finishes First (How Frank Schilling
Won the Domain Race After Starting at the
Back of the Pack"). It became one of
the most widely read articles in DN
Journal's 10-year history but in
hindsight we clearly made a mistake
in that story's headline. Frank Schilling
was not finished just yet and over
the following five years he continued to run
a domain race that is still far from over.
What we know
now is that the race we chronicled in 2007
that resulted in Frank being widely
acknowledged as the world's most successful
domain investor was just the first leg in
a longer marathon. It turned out to
be a far different race than anyone could
have foreseen back then - one that resulted
in Schilling morphing from leading domain
investor to massively disruptive force
in domain services provided to his
fellow domain investors.
It started with
him upending the domain parking
business with his new InternetTraffic.com
platform that had clients raving about their
improved PPC returns. Next came an all out
assault on the domain aftermarket with his DomainNameSales.com
venue - a venture powered by a cutting edge
mobile application for iPhones that clients
say is turbo charging their sales
efforts.
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Frank
Schilling
Founder, InternetTraffic.com,
DomainNameSales.com
and Uniregistry.com |
As always, Schilling
has an eye on the future as well - hence another
major new enterprise in Uniregistry.com
- a domain registry operator that has applied
to run its own new extensions through ICANN's
New gLTD Program. Barring further delays
at ICANN (of which there have been many) hundreds
of new domain extensions will begin hitting the
market in the next year or so and Schilling plans to
be a key player in that re-shaping of the Internet
landscape.
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We covered Frank's life
story to date the last time we had
him as our Cover Story subject. Now its time
to catch up on what he has been up to in what
has clearly been a wildly busy
half-decade since then. "A great deal has
certainly changed over the last five
years," Schilling began. "I’ve
gone from working out of my home office, to
working out of several offices. We
added people and infrastructure; invented
software and processes; started several name
related businesses."
"There were two really big defining
events during the last five years,"
he continued. "Firstly we decided to
focus on our core businesses. I sell
domain names and I sell traffic that comes to
domain names. That is how I make money. It’s
very easy for a successful CEO to go off on a
bird-walk and try to build new side businesses
outside their core area of expertise. We’ve
seen successful registrars and other domainers
make this mistake. I focused the cashflow from
our existing operations on trying to do our
two core things much better and on a larger
scale. We |
are not done
building our infrastructure, but we have come
incredibly far. That change in the way we
think about our business has paid real
dividends." |
"The second
defining event was the decision to extend all
the systems and infrastructure we’ve been building
to a pool of 600 customers. In ten years we
never dealt with anyone, except ourselves. In April
2011 we made the decision to bring on a customer.
599 more followed. We have some small customers and
we have some large ones, but all our customers have
remarked that the depth and breadth of
infrastructure we’ve built over the years is unlike
any other in this industry. That’s not by
accident. We built all that stuff for customer
number one, me. Having arms-length customers
has forced us to step up our game as a matter
of principle, pride and respect. It sounds corny but
the folks who join us trust us to help them.
We have to do a good job and pay that trust back,"
Schilling said.
Schilling rolled out his domain
monetization service, InternetTraffic.com, at
a time when many were looking for a priest to
give parking its last rites. Yet he and
his team managed to exceed their client’s
expectations and quickly carved out a huge
share of the market almost overnight. We asked
him why he decided to launch a new parking
service when so many others were dying on the
vine (or had already closed their doors), how
he has been able to outperform so many
established competitors and how the service
has evolved since it debuted.
"Let me start by saying that our
parking platform is now open to everyone,"
Schilling said. "There are some early
legacy partners who are administered in
segregated accounts but our platform is open
to all comers with trademark-free names
today." |
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"Now, I’d love
to ham-it-up and tell you what geniuses we are but
the truth is, we just adopted a different
business model – and as things turned out,
there was a great deal of demand for that model. The
model - and I’ve said it a few times ;) - is paying
out much more of gross revenue than our
competitors. As our business grew and we hit higher
revenue hurdles, we paid out “that” extra money
to partners too. If I showed you what we make on
partners revenue it would likely shock you
because its very low for an organization our
size."
"There have been
additional falloffs in the parking revenue side of
the business in 2012 but our philosophy of paying
out more to those who “make the traffic” has
softened the blow for many who joined us this year.
Higher payouts are good for our partners and clearly
they are good for an industry that has struggled
through a decline in recent years. The low
net-income at InternetTraffic.com would leave us
vulnerable if we didn’t have our biggest partner,
me. Having a large owned and operated
portfolio of names has given us a daily incentive
to keep evolving, because when we get it right, we
ourselves are the biggest winner,"
Schilling said.
Frank
Schilling (center) receiving a record
third
T.R.A.F.F.I.C. Domainer of the Year Award
in October 2012 |
Another reason customers have
flocked to Schilling's new services is the
fact that he is viewed by other domain
investors as "one of us" - a
status that is difficult for a lot of other
service providers to compete with. The way he
has treated people, newcomers and old hands
alike, with love and respect over the years
are also paying big dividends for him now.
While Frank is almost universally viewed as
the "nice guy" we referred to
in our 2007 headline, he is no pushover and he
doesn't pull any punches when you ask
him a question. Just one example of his rare
ability to wield an iron fist in a velvet
glove came as we continued to discuss what he
has done with InternetTraffic.com. |
"I
think our platform does a good job serving both our
customers and our upstream ad marketplace providers,
because both sides can see our intentions are
pure and that we are just trying to do a better
job," Schilling said. "Had we not started
doing what we did - taking outside accounts,
this industry would be in considerably rougher
shape than it is today. Our arrival has caused
layoffs and a lot of top line revenue discomfort
for the legacy parking companies, but that
discomfort has been felt at the domainer level for years.
It bred incredible resentment as the parking
companies blamed the revenue decline on the
upstreams like Yahoo and Google, and
while those upstream payouts did indeed drop, the
parking companies themselves became a big part of
the problem by becoming these bloated,
over-employing, over-paid intermediaries. Some
parking companies have hundreds of staff.
We have 6 and may grow to 10 or 15 with DomainNameSales.
That is a lot more efficient and allows us to
work on volume and much thinner margins."
"Looking
back on the last year, I’m most proud that the transparency
of our platform has helped to bridge some of the
long-time misunderstanding simmering between domain
registrants and upstream ad partners who’s
platforms generate the revenue," Schilling
continued. "To the upstreams we’ve tried to
explain the difference in value of domain traffic
and that there is a price to delivering traffic to
their marketplace ($9-$10 per year in renewal costs
for example). There are hosting charges and the work
of keeping names lit and maintained is real. We’ve
tried to show that clean operators can deliver high
quality traffic without maintenance and headaches
and problems. InternetTraffic.com has the lowest
ad-traffic quality credits in the space because we
demand that our customers run a clean show and
we don’t permit naked-arbitrage."
"On the domainer side
we’ve tried to show that the upstream ad
providers and keyword marketplaces are not
just out to screw us. They have real
business concerns brought by the advertisers
who don’t understand a lot of this domain
traffic stuff. We’ve tried to pay out the maximum
to show what a domain owner’s traffic is
worth and that certainly makes the upstreams
look better in the eyes of folks who
previously thought (sometimes rightly) that
they were being taken advantage of.
Fortunately for name owners, our platform
revealed that the party taking the advantage
was often the middle-man, not the
upstream," Schilling said.
"Our Owned and Operated traffic and
name-sales business gives us the latitude to discount
the parking business in the name of offering
ancillary services like name-brokerage to
customers on the DomainNameSales side. So to
that end, our first business
(InternetTraffic.com) is very much intertwined
with our second business
(DomainNameSales.com)," Schilling noted.
DomainNameSales (DNS) seems to be well on
its way to re-ordering the aftermarket
pecking order, just as InternetTraffic did
with parking. Schilling said, "Domain
sales have always been a big segment of the
domain industry The maturing of the domain
marketplace coupled |
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with the
frustration over their inability to control
revenues on the parking side has shifted many
domainers outlook to focus on a revenue stream
they have control over. That
revenue stream is sales." |
"The
landscape of sales marketplaces is similar to
parking in that there is this historical group of
platforms who grew very large (from an overhead and
headcount perspective) selling names for
commissions. These historical operators, have legacy
systems and a culture and costs that are out of
date, and frankly out of touch with their client
base," Schilling said. "Like with parking,
I am the biggest seller of names on our platform. I
have always had an in-house sales team and in
the past year that team has built a ton of tools
and infrastructure to do a better job marketing
my names. Other domainers and parking companies have
built sales platforms from scratch or by using Salesforce,
but no other operator with a large platform of names
has done as thorough a job building a CRM
system, coupled with a Sales/Marketing machine
“and” a mobile platform as we have. As
reluctant as I was to grandstand about our traffic
business I will shout from the rooftops that
our sales platform absolutely crushes what our
competitors will give you to sell your names,"
Schilling declared.
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"Our platform has many
facets and features, but the biggest
difference is the level of control DNS
gives you over an inquiry/transaction. With
DNS you will always know who the buyer is.
We don’t try to hide the buyer info or
obfuscate interactions between the broker and
buyer. You can see everything. You can
read the buyers better, research them through
tools in the platform, respond to them with
prices in real time, and the system will
follow up for you."
Schilling noted, "95%+ of all
sales inquiries originate when people type the
name into their address bar, or research the
name via Google. |
If you own a name,
most of your sales inquiries will come from a sales-link
on the landing page of the domain or via a
name’s admin email. If you get an
email and the name is on our platform you
simply forward a copy of that email to an
account specific address at DNS and the buyers
information is ripped from the body of the
message and a new inquiry is created in your
account on the DNS site. Long after you’ve
filed away and forgotten about that email, our
system will be following up with the buyer
to see if they are still interested. There are
quite literally hundreds of little subtleties,
tools and tricks like that to help you to sell
more domain names. The longer you are on the
platform the more the leads will build and
grow," Schilling said. |
"We
constantly engage in marketing to follow up and
explain the value proposition of a potential
purchase to your buyer. You can set up the DNS
system to engage in all kinds of follow-up using
pre-formed emails. You can set up the system to
pre-price your names to the buyer for BIN
through Escrow.com or through our credit card
merchant services. You can set up the system to ask
for offers. You can set up the system to solicit
negotiations. We have dozens of implementations and
have set our best performing as defaults."
"You
can do all of this by yourself or using any
broker at any sales platform that will allow
their brokers to use it. Brokers are free to
charge their services as they please but our
platform charges a fee to the broker. The net
cost to you, the name-owner, is the same or
lower than you are paying at your present
sales platform," Schilling added.
"Throughout
the entire process the buyer has full
transparency about the transaction and
they can interact through the sales site or
via our patented iPhone
app. Our app has several pieces of
novel technology to allow you to price
names, interact with buyers and keep
transactions and the sales process moving from
anywhere. This is not a light app.
Anything you can do on the sales platform you
can do from the app. In my business the app
has become this invisible piece of technology
we use and take for granted everyday. It is
absolutely wonderful. I have been in
this business 12 years and seen many lesser
competitors knock off our ideas, so this time
we patented many of the characteristics and
most useful innovations and functionality
which make our app better than anything anyone
else has. We’ll roll it out for Android
early next year (we hope)," Schilling
said.
"Most
companies would never give you tools like this
for free because it’s hard to find
the right alchemy to charge it out and
impossible to recover your costs, but like
with the traffic platform, I am the biggest
beneficiary when we win. At DNS/ITC we only
earn money from the parked pages and from
commissions when we act as the broker. I
cannot overstate the amount of effort
we put into this platform. In a year we are
going to be a profoundly different
business, largely on the back of these
inventions and innovations," Schilling
predicted.
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While
making waves in the here and now with his domain
monetization and sales businesses, Schillng is also
poised for a big move in the registry operations
field with Uniregistry.com - a move predicated on
winning the right to offer a variety of new domain
extensions through ICANN's New gTLD program. "Uniregistry
will be a new top level domain name registry
akin to Verisign, Affilias or Neustar,"
Schilling explained. "We look forward to making
the namespaces for future registrants."
"Registries
control the real estate to the right of the dot.
Dot com, dot net, dot info, dot biz. These are
namespaces which are operated by the companies I
mentioned above. We plan to offer dot link, dot
guitars, dot tattoo and a host of alternative
strings, " Schilling said. "Uniregistry is
purely a registry, not a registrar, so we do
not plan to pursue the path of Godaddy or Enom
offering retail registrations and hosting
services. That said, unlike the three incumbent
registries at the top, Uniregistry will offer a
management interface akin to Nominet’s in
the .uk space, permitting us to have a working
relationship with the registrants in our
namespaces. If domain names are the real estate of
the Internet, then the registry is like the land
title office. At Uniregistry we want to have an
administrative relationship with the people who own
the land, but we do not want to get into the
business of “wheeling and dealing” in the land,
offering construction services, etc. Those areas of
expertise will be the provenance of the registrar
(Godaddy, Enom, Tucows). We have created a new
registrar called Uniregistrar to act as a
lifeboat in case any of Uniregistry’s registrars
fail, but this is envisioned as an emergency
measure to protect registrants against the
unthinkable," Schilling said.
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With so many new TLDs expected
to come online at once, a problem many new
registry operators like Uniregistry may have
to overcome is obtaining "shelf space"
at popular registrars. If their
"products" are not in visible
locations, many registrants may not even know
they exist. To that point Schiillling said,
"registrars will have the luxury of picking
and choosing what to put on the shelf, who
gets an end-cap and so on. That said, the best
strings will be in demand by consumers and
the registrars take a risk by not
carrying them. BestBuy would be in big
trouble if they couldn’t sell this
season’s hot toy or the |
Wii, or the iPod.
In that way the retailers like Godaddy, Enom
and Tucows have a symbiotic relationship
with the "manufacturers" like
Uniregistry. On the Internet, consumers start
their search for a name at Google and go
wherever Google says they should. If a product
isn’t available at one retail registrar,
that retail registrar risks losing their
Google rank in relation to a search for that
string. Consumers will expect to find the
products they want on their favorite store
shelves. We’re confident that Uniregistry
has a great program for the retailers of the
Web," Schilling said. |
As
a guy who built his fortune on .com, many
people were stunned when Schilling took such a big
plunge into the new TLD pool - but he viewed the
decision as common sense. "There is an old
saying that numbers don’t lie and the
numbers are staggering," Schilling said. "There
are 7 billion (that’s 7000 million)
people on the planet. In the next few decades, half
that population will be online. In 30 years
there will be more than 15 billion people. I am not
of the belief that all those folks are going to die
in famine and war. These people will stick around
and the human spirit will find a way to feed, clothe
and house them. There are only 200 million
domain names registered today and anyone who has
tried to secure a short generic or meaningful name,
can attest that the pool of available names across
most quality extensions is exhausted. We are
going to need a lot more meaningful strings
and a lot more generic phrases that
registrants can buy for $6-10 a year. In
today’s environment that last sentence just
doesn’t seem possible. But with thousands or tens
of thousands of top level names there will be a
way to accommodate the registrants of the future.
I am doing this because I want to make the names
for the registrants of the future. Many of my
contemporaries do not want to do that. I have more
than enough money to retire and live a life of
leisure but “ships and men, rot in port”. I am
doing this, because I want to be a part of the
future of naming," Schilling declared.
Frank
Schilling (front row, second from right) with
some of his Uniregistry teammates
Schilling
noted above that he operates all of his enterprises
with an extraordinarily small staff for the amount
of work that he and his team have tackled. For many
businesses, getting and keeping the right people can
be the biggest challenge of all. "You
are absolutely right. That is definitely a problem,"
Schilling acknowledged. "The gutters of history
are filled with the bodies of men who tried to bite
off more than they could chew and didn’t have
infrastructure and resources to help them reach for
the brass ring. We’re all working very hard here,
and we’re trying to do something to change our
destinies."
"Uniregistry
has an equity pool set aside for the staffers
who got us there. I’ve been lucky to be a good
communicator. I can share my vision well. But
the truth is, I have a team of people who support me
and make me look good. Ryan, Vern, Ying, Roy,
John, Dan, Quintin, James, Heather, Bret, Amanda,
MJ, Karl and others help me get there and
make me look good. We have other contractors and
companies who provide service and support to us as
well. I do not take their sacrifices or commitment
to me lightly. I will never, ever forget how these
people and suppliers helped me and I intend to make
them very rich. As rich as I possibly can.
Their success reflects well on me," Schiling
said.
"Don’t
get me wrong, our people don’t just get a promise
of something in the future. Our people make good
money along the way as well. I try to pay more
than people could make elsewhere because I don’t
want folks to worry about money or have jealousy set
in. I try to provide a fun work environment and I
truly use every opportunity to show my staff
(financially and emotionally) how important they are
to me."
"I basically
try to do the opposite of what every
previous employer ever did to me!,"
Schilling laughed. "That said, this is a
“business” we’re running and we need to
make money too - everyone who joins needs to
work very hard, and understand how we
make money, and the needs of the business. And
our people need to deliver. They need
to share our vision and tell us if we can do
things better."
"All my
people are very smart and pull more than their
weight. This next year will see us grow a
lot, but at the moment all the new jobs we
are offering are in the Cayman Islands.
That makes hiring skilled industry folks a
challenge. We are losing a long time
consultant who we need more from and who
can’t relocate. That is the most
heartbreakingly difficult part. I owe it to my
team to swallow-hard, move forward and win
for them. I am going to try my guts out to
make sure it happens. So far so good,"
Schilling said. |
Above
and below: Frank Schilling speaking to
a group of domain investors who
visited him
in the Cayman Islands during the DNCruise
conference in September 2012. |
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As
I mentioned earlier, the way Frank has personally
treated people, regardless of where they are in their
domain journey, has brought a lot of love his way.
While that would be a blessing for anyone, I also
wondered if it added some weight to his shoulders
in terms of not wanting to let anyone down who puts
their faith in his new services.
"All
the love is indeed a great responsibility,"
Schilling said. "I never take it for
granted Ron - and I genuinely love everyone back.
I see the good in almost everyone in this space. I
really want the best for everyone. You can’t please
every person though – A friend was watching me work
the other day and commented that I was letting the guy
on the other end of the phone-line treat me a bit like
a doormat. I don’t suffer fools but I have a lot of empathy
for my fellow man. I just feel like if you try hard
for somebody it will work-out and come back to you.
Not everyone I have dealt with loves me and I’m
certainly no perfect angel, but I don’t really have
a bunch of ulterior motives and I try to do everything
I can to help the people in my life. You can’t
fake that."
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"Over the years I’ve been
fortunate that so many people have thought well
of me. If I look at myself in the mirror in a
moment of self reflection about who I really am
- you could say I see a little boy.
The childlike altruism which I see in my own
kids has never left me as I grew up.
In a lot of ways I’m still just a little boy
in a 40 something body. I want to share my toys,
share my sandbox and make sure everyone
around me is okay and happy"
"If I can do that – if I can make
the people around me happy and feel good,
and make a living in the process ~ well then
that’s more than any man deserves out of life.
If my business ever changes and I can’t do
things anymore I’ll tell everyone and
be honest about it, but we’re doing just
fine and working very hard to make sure the only
thing waylayed are the mistakes and wrong
decisions that sidelined those who came before
us," Schilling concluded. |
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