registration
services, made eNom the go to registrar for
many early domain investors. There is a fascinating
entrepreneurial story behind Stahura's
long and winding road to eNom and an equally
interesting one detailing his path from eNom
(after selling
the company in 2006) to his
current position at the front of the new gTLD
Army.
Stahura was born
in East Chicago, Indiana and grew up in
Hammond, a highly industrial area in
the northwest corner of the Hoosier state. The
gritty determination and untiring drive that
Stahura's friends see in him today can be
traced back to his earliest roots. Paul
told us, "My dad worked his way up from nothing
(such as no shoes) during the depression and
without a high school diploma he joined the Marines
and fought in the Pacific in World War II, got
his GED afterward and then a two-year
Industrial Management degree at Purdue
on the GI Bill. It took him 6 years to
get the 2-year degree because he did it while
working for Mobil Oil in a local oil
refinery. Eventually he became the internal
audit supervisor. It's also where he met my
mother, who was a switchboard operator at the
refinery."
As kids
few of us give a lot of serious
thought to what we will to do when we
grow up but Stahura experienced an unusually
early epiphany - one that would
shape his life for decades to come.
"At age 11, I saw a movie
on TV called “Tobor the Great”,
about a kid who could control a robot
from his dad’s lab basement,"
Stahura said. "I thought, “I
can make a robot in my dad’s
basement, too!” I always had
an interest in robots and things you
could control. I tried to make
one with buckets and stove pipes and
taught myself about electricity so I
could make the robot’s eyes light up
with bulbs."
"At
13 my dad got transferred to a different
oil refinery, so we moved to New
Jersey, where I went to high
school. I built two or three
more robots, which were more and more
sophisticated. In the late
1970’s I even worked at a peach
orchard for farm labor wages to earn
enough money to buy a single-board
computer—called “KIM-1”,
which had a 6502 processor. It
was the same processor used in the
first Apple computer and had 1K of
memory, which I expanded to 8K.
I still have the computer in my
library. While in high school, I read
the manual and I memorized the
op-codes and programmed it to move
the robot around my basement, and
that was my introduction to computers." |
Future
roboticist Paul Stahura
in grade school.
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Below:
The 1970s era KIM-1 computer that
Stahura
used to move robots around his
basement (he still has it).
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"I
decided I wanted to go to college to
be a roboticist," Paul continued.
"There was a professor at Purdue
who was world famous in robotics, and
I decided I wanted to study with him.
My high school grades were not that
great but those robots I built in the
basement helped, so I was lucky enough
to get in. I did my
undergraduate work at Purdue and
eventually worked with him my senior
year. I also earned a graduate
degree in robotics at Purdue."
"After
a year and a half of grad school, I
couldn’t get robotics out of my
head. A robotics company had
moved into West Lafayette, Indiana,
where Purdue is located, and I worked
there while I finished my graduate
degree, making robotic software.
They made robots that could weld on an
assembly line."
"One
learning experience that’s stayed
with me today: Because of my bug
in the software, I once broke a
giant robot and the damage cost |
more than
my yearly salary, and I was sure I was
going to be fired. I wasn’t,
but it taught me you can’t make
progress without taking risks.
It’s an operating principle that I
use now with my company - you’re
never going to get fired for breaking
the robot!" Stahura smiled. |
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As much
as Stahura loved robots, looking back,
he thinks he might have ridden that
horse a little longer than he should
have (a lesson he seems to be applying
today with respect to where he thinks
the future lies for TLDs). "There
are two themes to my career: Innovation
and stick-to-itiveness.
For whatever reason, once I have an
idea it takes me a long time to let
it go," Stahura allowed.
"I
met a bunch of other Purdue students
who I’m still good friends with
today, including my longtime friend Jim
Beaver who also worked at the
robot company. The robot company
eventually went out of business so I
started a robot controller company
that used the Macintosh computer—we
made control circuit boards for the
Mac and a ton of software to turn the
Mac into a robot controller,"
Stahura recalled.
"We rented some
space for our robot lab in a strip
mall next to a deli, jammed a couple
industrial robots in there, and
started writing software. A
couple of years later we hadn’t sold
one robot controller (we did sell some
related software) and we were even
more broke."
Still,
Stahura was not ready to look for another
career. "A guy I knew was building electric motors to make
modular robots in southern Indiana using Small
Business Innovation Research (SBIR) grants from the
government," Stahura said. "I moved down there, and we dreamed
up a new motor, for which I got my first patent.
I was still sticking with it, wanting to invent."
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Paul
Stahura (right) and close friend Jim
Beaver
(the best man at Paul's wedding) outside
city
hall
in Aix-en-Provence, France where
Jim is holding the
marriage certificate Stahura had just
obtained.
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Paul
Stahura in southern Indiana with the prototype
of a
motor design he got his first patent on
in 1994.
While
Paul was deciding to stay the course in his
career pursuit, he met someone at that same
time who would change his personal life
in a very big way. "Just before I left
for southern Indiana, I met my
future wife, Flo, at Purdue where she was just
finishing her master’s degree,"
Stahura said. "In southern Indiana, I had
rented a room in a 1968
model single-wide mobile home (renting a room, because
I could not afford the whole thing), but that was an
improvement up from the farmhouse basement I was
living in initially. Flo, who is French, went
back to France to do a Ph.D. in biochemistry and so we
dated long distance for a number of years, and, I
finally asked her to marry me. She said she
would, but insisted she wouldn’t live in that
trailer. I said “deal!”, and when she got a
post-doctorate position at Notre Dame, we got an
apartment there and I was back in northern Indiana."
Newlyweds
Paul and Flo Stahura on their September 1995
honeymoon in Venice, Italy.
"Meanwhile, my friend Jim suggested we start a
consulting company since we knew about technology and
could continue learning new things. We started
with another three guys who knew about the consulting
business, so us “five knuckleheads” (as we called
ourselves) became partners doing client-server
consulting. I did some robotics consulting in
Michigan for a while but after about a year, I ramped
up on databases and enterprise class applications and
joined my partners in that. So after about 20
years I finally gave up the ghost on robotics and was
into client-server enterprise class applications and
sending floppy disks around to install the client
software on PCs."
"Then guess what happened?,"
Stahura continued. "The web came along,
and the newfangled universal client called “a
browser” meant we didn’t need to distribute client
software on floppies any longer. I was worried
I’d missed the revolution because I’d been stuck
in robotics for so long, but in 1995 I registered my
first domain name, Netscape had its IPO, and told my
wife I’m not missing out on this
Internet thing like I did with the PC revolution
because I was mentally stuck in the robotics backwater
due to a movie I saw when I was 11! My wife was
supportive but my partners were skeptical that the
Internet would be, as I put it, “bigger than
electricity.”
Above:
a pivotal moment in Paul Stahura's career.
"This the
exact moment I decided to not miss the
Internet," Stahura told us.
"We were on our honeymoon in Venice and I bought this
Wired magazine which was one of the only
English language magazines I could find. This article in
that issue said "IBM and Sony are reportedly planning new online offerings as well, while the existing players, ranging from
CompuServe to Delphi, are redoubling efforts to take
AOL down a peg. And the dark horse looming over everything is
the Internet itself, which some say has the potential to
doom not just AOL, but all the proprietary services, to
the ash heap of online history." I totally agreed with
that," Stahura noted. "I thought
these big incumbents (IBM and Sony) would get crushed in the new world and the Internet would dominate."
With
this belief in mind flash forward a couple of
years. Stahura said, "By around 1997 we’d built up the consulting company
to about 50 employees, but it wasn’t my kind of
business—you could make only so much money per hour
and our billable rates were maxed out, and you could
only work so many hours in a day. You couldn’t
scale and make money while you were sleeping."
"What we did have were some good developers on the
bench, waiting for work, who knew how to make great
systems. I thought we should have them work on
provisioning a service we didn’t have to ship,
something that had to do with the web. All these
folks in the popular technology press were talking
about web browser war this and web server that, but I
saw that there these things called name servers, which
a bunch of geeks could set up and was something your
website needed to work. It just seemed like name
server tech had more opportunity per person working on
it than web server tech had. The DNS was central
to how the Internet worked, and I told my partners we
should get into name server services because there was
too much competition doing web stuff," Stahura
said.
In
1992 (when this shot was taken) Stahura was
still all about the hardware.
Little did he know that five years
later his focus would switch to software
(For
historic hardware fans Paul is working on a robot controller made out of a
Macintosh II. Stahura noted, "You can also see my handy dandy HP 11-C (I still use that same
one - its on my desk now!) and you can see the cool/innovative 6-degree-of-freedom
“stewart platform" joystick just to my left
which we used to control/move the robot with (I still have it too).
its funny to see a drill, a tool box, a soldering iron and the volt meter in the picture, when nowadays we are so far removed from hardware and mechanical things."
Returning
to the late 90s, Stahura said, "A couple of guys had set up a web-based interface to a
mail server and called it “Hotmail” and after just
18 months sold it to Microsoft so I suggested we
make a
web-based interface to a name server. Before
that, there was no remote access—you had to call a
geek at an ISP or somewhere who was sitting in front
of the name server to type in magical stuff to get
your name to work and point to your web server’s IP
address. I figured we could charge people for a
simple “do-it-yourself” web interface that made
names work for them (everyone got the actual names at
NSI back then, because that was the only place to get
names, but NSI didn't offer DNS)."
"We made the software and in thinking of a name for the
service, we came up with eNom. eName.com was
already taken, and so was Name.com. I had my
wife translate “name” into French, which is
“nom.” I stuck an “e” in front like
“eBay”, and I also liked the four-letter name and
thought if it became big, it could be a stock symbol
on NASDAQ. eNom now owns name.com and is a
public company on NASDAQ as part of Rightside, but
trades under the symbol “NAME”, not “ENOM,”
Paul noted.
(December
5, 2014) The Rightside team at the NASDAQ
Exchange in New York City
on the day the company's stock started trading
under the NAME symbol.
In
eNom, Stahura was finally able to realize his
dream of creating a scalable business that
would make money while he was sleeping.
Even though it proved to be a great idea,
Stahura still had a hard time getting his
partners on board. "We got into the domain name
system. I pitched my
partners with “it’ll be a bank machine on the
web,
but people will put money in instead of taking money
out, and we don't have to ship anything, just make an
entry in a database”. But that didn't get me very
far, and my partners didn’t really go for it—they
wanted to be in the consulting business, “this is
the business we have chosen,” they’d say, quoting
a line from the Godfather movie. I finally
convinced them by saying I would do it myself, so I
put up 1/3 of the money, and they put in 2/3—
the
consulting company owned the majority of eNom."
"In 1997,
CORE had started and announced that TLD
contracts were running out at Network Solutions, then
the only registry and registrar. They wanted to
create seven new TLDs, and said if you show up at a
meeting in Tokyo with $10,000, you could be a member
of CORE and participate in getting these new TLDs
launched. I scraped up the money and flew over,
and met half the people in the industry at the time (Hal
Lubsen, John Kane, Ken Stubbs, Amadeu Abril de
Abril, and many others). This is how I got into
domain names."
"So
1997 is when I got hooked by “.web” – my second
passion after robots – a domain name registry.
I tried to get into TLDs with CORE then but incumbents
made it so that it didn’t happen. What did
happen was the TLD idea lodged in my head.
ICANN
then began in 1998, and split the industry into
registrars and registries. eNom became
accredited as a registrar, but we weren’t among the
five companies in the original registrar “test
bed”. I had investors lined up to back eNom if
it had been in the test bed, but they all backed out
when they learned we weren’t. We were all on a
conference call where ICANN announced the test bed
participants, and when eNom was not announced, my
potential investors literally got up and walked
out," Stahura recalled.
Below:
A screenshot of the eNom Home Page in 1999
from the Internet
Archive Wayback Machine
Stahura
still found a silver lining in the test bed disappointment.
"The
good news is that eNom, because it came out of the
consulting business, was over-architected (in a good
way) with a “tiered” architecture," he noted.
"We
registered our first name, which was
“competitionworks.com” (because it does) using the
API in 1999 (the whois recorded the exact day and
time) and we decided we would open our API to anyone
to use, and this became the basis of our reseller
model. Our motto was “We Suck Less” (than NSI, the
near-monopoly back then). We were provisioning name
server services, and said, “let’s provision domain
names too.” Eventually we provisioned e-mail,
an ID protection product for WhoIs (something John Kane –
who later joined me at eNom and is now at Afilias —
and I dreamed up in the late 1990s) and other
services. We just kept adding to it,"
Stahura said.
"So
I had successfully transitioned from robotics, via
consulting, to the Internet. It felt as though
I’d emigrated from the U.S. into cyberspace—I was
living in another world called the Internet."
There
is one bit of eNom history that only long time
industry observers may recall. We noted earlier
that Stahura sold the company (to Demand Media) in
2006, but he had actually sold it once before and had
to take on a major risk to get it back. Stahura
explained how that happened. "From 1997 to 2000, we built both the consulting
company and eNom. In 2000, we were approached to
buy the consulting company. In due diligence, it
was learned the consulting company owned most of eNom
and the acquiring company, Webvision, wanted to buy
eNom too, so we sold both. Within about a year
Webvision blew through all the capital it had raised
and went out of business. Just before its final
collapse Webvision ran a process to sell eNom, which
included new.net (an Idea Lab company back then) as
one of the bidders. Jim and I scraped together all the
money we had, taking out second mortgages, and ended
up with the winning bid in buying back eNom."
Legendary
domain investor and
Uniregistry founder Frank
Schilling
helped eNom discover "the
drop". |
"After being cocooned within Webvision during most of
the .com bust, the eNom butterfly emerged between 2002
and 2006," Stahura said. "We had great architecture that worked
and was scalable and didn’t fail very often—we had
an API and were hosting other ICANN registrars,
performing “back-end” registrar services for them
as well as ourselves and all of our customers."
"At one point, we noticed at a certain time of day our
systems were pounded. Why was Frank Schilling
pounding our servers every day? We found out
this was due to the “drop.” We got wise to
the drop and the idea of “creds” (a term we
invented to mean the login credentials to an ICANN
accredited registrar). We applied to ICANN for
hundreds of “creds” to have many more bites at the
registry SRS apple and founded Club Drop (which
eventually became NameJet in 2006). We got into
parking and we started competing with SnapNames and
Pool.com," Stauhura noted
"Through many twists and turns and ups and downs, we
grew from our API, resellers, the drop, parking, and
value-added services. Providing real value at
low prices made eNom |
thrive. This whole time,
however, I hadn’t given up on the idea of new
TLDs.
I tried often to get control of a TLD between 1997 and
the opening of the current round - .WEB, .ID, .MY,
.CO, .ME, .ONE, .ORG - I was unsuccessful at least
seven times. Before 2014 I was the biggest TLD
loser ever. Still, I stuck to it because I saw
the need for an expanded name space. As the
years went by, the quality of new names in old TLDs
got worse and worse and the pushback from incumbents
to new TLD competition got greater and greater."
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Before
Stahura would get to the new gTLD
destination he hoped to reach his baby,
eNom, would be sold a second time.
"
In 2006 investors of Demand Media approached us to buy
all of eNom, not just because of the registration
business but because of the portfolio and parking
revenue we’d built," Stahura said. |
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"Their model was that of a
media company that monetizes content through ads; we
were getting huge revenue from parking, which is
nothing but monetizing ads but with no content.
At first blush it would seem like a domain name
registrar has nothing to do with a media company, but
it was as if they intended to publish magazines
(websites with content and ads), while we published
catalogs (our domain name parking, which is nothing
but ads). The synergy came from the fantastic ad
rev-share eNom had back then with Google and Yahoo." |
"We formed Demand Media and that same day in 2006 sold
eNom to it, and I was President and COO of Demand, and
as a large shareholder also a member of the board of
directors. The company acquired more and more
media properties and some other registrars. But
I still had my heart set on climbing that last
mountain—getting a new TLD. I spent a lot of
time at Demand working the policy process of advancing
new TLDs. After yet another delay in the TLD
program, which made it look as though new TLDs were a
long way out, I left Demand Media in late 2009."
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Less
than two years later Stahura was back
in the spotlight again - this time
in a role he had been seeking for nearly
two decades - running a company that
operates its own gTLDs - and not
just any company - one that has
become the largest in the space - Donuts
Inc. To get where he wanted
to go Stahura spent the time after he
left Demand Media putting together a top
tier group of co-founders and raising a
9-figure war chest to fund the
ambitious venture.
"I had known my Donuts
partners for a long time from our years in the
industry," Stahura said. " At first,
Richard Tindal (Chief Operating Officer) and I were partners,
as were Jon Nevett (Executive Vice President,
Corporate Affairs) and Dan Schindler
(Executive Vice President, Business
Development) separately, but eventually we
decided to all go in together. Jon was Sr. VP at
NSI, Richard ran Neustar’s registry business (he
obtained and ran .biz and .us for them) and Dan ran
CentralNic They are all tremendous
professionals, very talented, and we compliment each
other well.
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I couldn’t ask for a better team of
co-founders and its great to work with close friends
at Donuts just like it was at eNom."
Donuts
Co-Founders (left to right): Paul
Stahura,
Dan Schindler, Richard Tindal
and Jon Nevett. |
"Due to the mutual respect all of us at Donuts have for
one another, we are not afraid of conflict among the
team because we know we’ll use reason and logic to
get to the right answers and make the best decisions.
Tren Griffin quoted Ben Horowitz who quoted
Marc
Andreessen who quoted Lenin who was quoting
Karl Marx
who said “sharpen the contradictions”. We,
too, believe that works. Nothing is perfect.
Surfacing the differences and reasoning them out,
getting to the truth, and resolving them is best, not
plastering over and hiding conflicts," Stahura
said.
The founders all have great credentials but
raising hundreds of millions of dollars is still
an impressive feat. To get it done, Stahura did
something he had done before to get eNom off the
ground. "The first element of raising
the capital was that I put up my own money as a
testament of my faith in the opportunity,"
Stahura said. "I
figured it's a risk only if you don't know what you
are doing, and I was pretty sure we knew what we were
doing. The second was that we had a very
believable reason why we could acquire TLDs in an
economical way, and further, why other companies
wouldn’t make as big a play as we were proposing.
As Warren Buffett says, “if its raining gold, put
out a bucket”, and I figured they’d put out a thimble. Once I invested,
TL Ventures and Austin
Ventures joined, and the other investors came along
seemingly fairly easily."
"Donuts
is the first company for which I raised money – eNom
had no outside investors before I sold it to Demand
Media but I had learned a lot from the management team
at Demand Media, which had the motto “go big or go
home,” and raised over $200 million. I wanted
many
new TLDs, and obtaining many new TLDs is a capital
intensive venture, so I had to assemble a great team
and raise a lot for Donuts. I had the wherewithal to
lead the way and that started the ball rolling, and
also large venture capital and private equity funds
need to deploy capital in big chunks (but only to
entrepreneurs with valid, believable reasons why a
large amount is needed and how they’ll certainly
make money for their investors). It’s probably
harder to raise a small amount of capital with the
same amount of good reasoning," Stahura opined.
"Like eNom and the
drop, we decided to go big— this time, instead of
300 registrar creds, it was 300 new TLDs. I am
fortunate to have been joined by world-class investors
who have never been anything but supportive of the
Donuts management team and excited by new TLDs, domain
names, and the registry business. Again, it’s
great sailing with friends who are all highly
motivated to get the ship to port."
"From back when I was a kid, I was stuck for 20 years
on robots, but for the last 20, I’ve been stuck on
TLDs. I’m involved with Donuts now because I
couldn’t get TLDs before, when I initially wanted
to. Finally, ICANN is overcoming the incumbents
and opened the window and after all that time we got
our first new TLD last year. I don’t give
up—in fact, I’d have to be dead before I give up.
I stick to things because I fixate on them and
innovate ways to make them come true,"
Stahura said.
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Donuts recently celebrated the 1st anniversary of
its first TLDs going live. We asked Paul how, at this
early stage, his strategy has played out
compared to the vision he had for the company going
in. "It’s going almost exactly as we thought it would,
but for one thing," Stahura said. "For example, we thought
we’d have 150 uncontested TLDs; it turned out to be
149. We thought we’d end up with about 200
TLDs in total, and that’s just about the number
we’ll end up with. The exception is that it happened
nowhere near as fast
as we thought it would. The process took much
longer than it should have. It took too long to
get these assets in the hands of the public, open the
name-space, bring innovation, and create real
competition and lower prices. But I believe in
Warren Buffett’s maxim that it’s better to have
the “what will happen” right versus the “when it
will happen," Stahura said.
Despite
the seemingly endless delays, Stahura said one
thing remained the same - a determination to innovate.
"We
innovated pricing tiers at Donuts—this wasn’t
easy, as we had to do that while staying compatible
with standard EPP so registrar integration would be
easy. Now other registries are doing it.
We innovated the Early Access Program (EAP), and now
other registries are doing that. We innovated
the Domains Protected Marks List (DPML), and
registries are doing that as well. We innovated
private auctions to resolve contention among TLD
applicants, which was initially rejected but is now
wholly embraced. We have a few patents in the
pipe, and we’re innovating other things we have yet
to launch. The Donuts DNA is infused with
“Innovation is the key to wealth creation”,
Stahura said.
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Paul noted,
"Even
our name is creative. “Donuts” evokes
variety and choice because bakers create so many
different types of donuts. We are nuts about
domains (“domain nuts”). Its memorable because
it's a bit strange. You’ll notice that our
name contains the letters “DNS” which are
highlighted in a |
different color (similar to
“Hotmail” containing the letters “HTML”). And
have you noticed the first letter, “D” is the
color teal?—a “teal D”. Aren’t we funny?,"
Stahura smiled. |
While
Stahura is confident that big things are
ahead for new gTLDs, others, especially those in
the domain investor camp, think it's unlikely
new extensions will ever be able to escape .com's
long shadow. Stahura explained why he thinks his
vision of the future is the one that will play out. "New York City was big in the
1700s and is big now—it
will be the biggest city in America probably
forever," Stahura noted. "However, and this is
important, its population is
becoming less and less of the total population pie.
Las Vegas, San Francisco, LA and
Chicago didn’t
exist when New York was founded, but they’re
significant today and are now thriving cities.
The same is true of TLDs. All these new cities
had great new real estate for various reasons – next
to the lake, on a river, near a port, on a hilltop —
just as new TLDs do."
"We’re still at the
very beginning. There will be no
other globally unique naming system – the DNS is too
embedded into our Internet, our laws, our
communications, and our world. The Internet will be
around for more than 100 years (like the phone system
has been), and these names will be too. New
domainers and some old timers recognize this new
opportunity and are moving west. Some old timers
are mentally stuck back on Plymouth Rock. Some
slumlord probably said back then “Don't go west
young man, there be lawless savages out there!
Rent my tenement in Brooklyn instead,”
Stahura said.
"Our
“cities” are new and sit on great real estate,
vast swaths of which are still unexploited,"
Stahura continued. " A
new name in .COM is probably in a bad neighborhood and
is not next to Central Park in New York—there’s no
good land left there. There’s good new
unregistered land in new TLDs, and they will be around
for a very long time. For sure, a condo on Park
Avenue is worth millions today, and if you are lucky
to have bought it back in 1960, congratulations, you
probably beat inflation, but buying it now |
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will cost a
buyer millions. Potential investors have to ask
themselves: “Will the condo value go up faster
compared to buying some undiscovered great properties
in a brand new city now, and for less?”
|
"But its not just some domainers leading the way to new
TLDs," Stahura noted. "Brands are moving west too. Domainers are
accompanied by trend setters such as Lady Gaga with
bornthisway.foundation, Lionsgate with
thehungergames.movie, Kanye West with
yeezy.supply, GM
with GeneralMotors.green, McDonalds with
bigmac.rocks,
and many others now and many more to come. It's
not a coincidence that companies like Google and
Amazon got into both the domain name registry and
registrar game right when new TLDs were launched.
I’m sure its not because they think it wouldn’t
last or be huge."
Stahura
added, "The
NSI registrar had about 100% worldwide market share
when I started eNom in my garage on near zero capital.
Look what happened. The Verisign registry had
about 50% worldwide market share when I started Donuts
with over $100 million in capital. We’ll see
what’ll happen."
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While
we all wait to see what is going to
happen it's hard not to marvel at how
one man's life can change in the space
of 20 years. Reflecting on that Stahura
mentioned, "
I’m married with three teenagers now. I didn’t
have teens when I started eNom in my garage. Our
oldest was just born and we had a sign on the door
asking people not to slam it and wake up my daughter
when they went inside to use the bathroom!,"
Stahura laughed.
Paul's
business and personal life were
intertwined back then and that is one
thing that hasn't changed. "I
like working with people I like, so I don’t separate
friends from business that much," Stahura
said. " I like going to
ICANN meetings because I have a lot of friends there.
I don’t have a hobby outside of work—it’s not
really work to me. There’s very little
“outside of work” for me."
"I
travel with my family but my mind is often on business
and domain names because I’m fixated with it.
Flo has gotten used to it, I think. We are just
back from the Galapagos, where my family and I
explored the wildlife and jungles, and after the
Durban ICANN meeting my family and I did a safari in
Botswana and other countries there. We travel a
lot and go back to
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France to visit my wife’s family
there. Despite my fixation on the DNS, I think I
have a healthy work-life balance now and at times in
the past, but it has not always been easy to
achieve," Stahura said, clearly very
content with where that 11-year-old
kid who loved robots is sitting today. |
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