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Back to the Future: NamesCon Global 2025 Was a Historic Homecoming Party for Many and a Forward-Thinking Domain Forum For All - Page 2

By Ron Jackson

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After an energizing opening day and night Wednesday November 5 in Miami. The 2025 NamesCon Global conference continued with an equally productive and enlightening closing day Thursday, November 5. Attendees again woke up at the Marriott Biscayne Bay Hotel (or one of several others nearby that handled the spill over when the Marriott sold out) and made their way down to the fleet of  shuttle buses that took then on the short ride over to the show venue - the spacious Ice Palace in the middle of Miami's Wynwood Arts District.

That day began with a panel discussion centered on  a topic that has been a subject of debate since the earliest days of domain investing - What’s It Really Worth? Demystifying Domain Valuation.

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Above: The domain valuation session featured, left to right, Mark "Mr. Premium" Ghoriafi (Sedo), Tray Bullock (team Internet), Larry Fischer (GetYourDomain.com), Matthew Gould (Unstoppable Domains) and Wade Smith (GoDaddy). When you see one domain sell for six figures while another that seems similar collects dust, you have to wonder why that happens. While it can be just a matter of luck, the panelists pointed to some real factors that influence such diverse domain pricing. Looking at everything from market trends and buyer intent to keyword strength, TLD impact, and comparable sales, they detailed how they learned to assess value with both instinct and data

Next up, Tess Diaz (.it.com Domains) conducted A Fireside Chat Anthos Chrysanthou. The SAV.com Founder had a lot to say about work he started doing several years ago to take advantage of the current AI-fueled revolution sweeping through all industries. Before "ChatGPT" was a household name, Anthos applied for eight AI patents back in 2022 for a set of tools designed to help entrepreneurs run their ventures more efficiently and realistically. Having wrestled with the complexities and potential burnout of each step of the entrepreneurial process himself, Anthos said his mission is to make it easier for the next generation. His most recently granted patent, received in July, is for a generative AI system that automatically builds websites based on a brief business description (under 200 characters). This system intelligently scans the web for key terms, ranks high traffic examples, and generates tailored website templates with custom content and recommends optimal business entity types using large language models.

Above: With another round of new TLDs set to arrive next year, the next session was equally relevant. This discussion, titled Herding a Million Cats: What it Takes to Run a New gTLD, drew its name from the fact that running a top-level domain isn’t like taking care of a pet—it’s like taking care of millions of pets! The topic was tackled by, left to right, Christian Dawson (i2Coalition), Joe Alagna (.it.com Domains), Christa Taylor (TLDz), Jim Pendergrast (Galway Strategy Group), Martin Kuechenthal (LEMARIT GmbH) and Tim Switzer (Public Interest Registry).

Running a new gTLD is a long-term commitment to running a piece of the Internet itself, with all the complexity and responsibility that entails. These industry veterans, who experienced the highs and lows of the last round, shared what it really takes to succeed in Round Two so potential applicants know it is much more than just a branding play or a shortcut to profit. 

Above: During the morning coffee break we headed back out for a caffeine boost and a look around  to see who we could catch passing by. This group would be at the top of anyone's networking wish list. Left to right are Shane Cultra, Andrew Rosener, David Castello, Kevin McKim and Steven Kaziyev.

Below: Fortune smiled on as while checking out vendor booths too. On this stop at the Dynadot display we found Client Success Manager Caleb Tweed, VP of Aftermarket Hallie Cao, VP of Marketing Jacqueline Daily and, from the Booth next door - DN.com Founder Jack Dai.

Above: Back in the conference hall at 11am, those who decided they wanted to run their own TLD, even after hearing all of the work and responsibility that comes with that in the session before the coffee break, could now learn How to Apply for a New gTLD: The ICANN Process Explained. That valuable information came from ICANN's Senior Director, GDD Accounts, Andee Hill (at left) and Naela Sarras (ICANN VP, Stakeholder Engagement in North America). They filled attendees in on key requirements, timelines and program updates for the 2026 round so they would have a better understanding of the ins and outs of gTLD application and evaluation.

Above & Below: The final day 2 morning session offered some insight into an area that many attendees might never have thought about - What happens when you combine a premium domain name with a highly marketable phone number? This discussion, titled Dialed In: How Phone Numbers Paired with Domains Unlock New Revenue, featured, left to right, Loren Stocker (Chief Innovator, Telex, Inc.), , Matt Holmes (CEO, Handshaking.com) and Brian Scott (Chief Technology Officer, NumberBarn.com). They revealed how pairing phone numbers with domains is opening up new revenue streams, from call tracking and lead generation to instant brand credibility. They detailed how to source valuable numbers, package them with domains, and pitch them to end users in industries where phone-based leads still dominate.

From 12:30 to 2pm the Closing Day lunch break came with tasty local food choices and a hefty side order of networking - the dish domain people never get tired of!

The lunch break also left time to look for more friends in the Exhibit Hall. We found a half-dozen of them at the Above.com booth alone! Left to right, they included Simon Saleem, Liz Corona, CEO and Co-Founder David Warmuz, James Tuplin, Jodi Chamberlain and Nathan Parker.

Above: The Thursday afternoon business sessions began with Dynadot Founder & CEO Todd Han detailing Building Opportunities for Domain Investors with Dynadot: Buy, Sell, and Scale. Dynadot recently launched NameClub, their new domain marketplace offering fair pricing, crypto payouts, and a streamlined experience reflecting feedback from domain investors - a group that has consistently anked Dynadot as their favorite registrar in polls conducted at the NamePros Fourm.

Above: Next up The New Era of Monetization was discussed, an especially timely topic given recent changes at Google that have choked off traditional domain parking revenue. This panel featured, left to right, moderator Monte Cahn, ParkLogic CEO Michael Gilmour and Investor Burt Katz. With the huge shift in market dynamics people are wondering what the future in this area will hold. The good news is, alternative solutions are already being rolled out. The panelists covered the latest trends, emerging opportunities, and strategic insights that highlight why domain traffic monetization continues to be a strong and adaptable revenue stream.

Above: This is a good point to share a little "inside baseball' with you. While NamesCon is under new management they wisely brought back some key players who helped make the conference run so smoothly in recent years. I was especially pleased to see Peter Schwinge return as a host onstage and stage manager behind the scenes. I went backstage a little before 3pm to get ready for the next two sessions that I would be moderating and, as usual, Peter had everything completely under control. In less experienced hands, I've seen a lot of chaotic scenes behind the curtains as large groups of people are shuffled back and forth in tight quarters, microphones have to be checked and instructions given on where to go when everyone stepped on onstage. Peter is why the NamesCon sessions ran so smoothly, started when they were supposed to and ended the same way. It also made things looks sharp and professional from the audience's perspective, something I saw while covering sessions throughout the conference. Making it all look seamless and easy is the mark of pro and a key factor in building the respected brand that NamesCon has.

In the first of the two sessions I moderated (each of which featured some of the world's top domain brokers), the topic was What’s Taking So Long? What Really Happens After the Handshake? I have to admit I was puzzled when I first saw the subject line. With most of my personal sales in the four-figure range things haven't taken long at all with payment typically arriving the day after making the transfer. I quickly learned that a vastly different set of circumstances, especially in recent years, is creating a lot of headaches for high end buyers, sellers and brokers. I think our panel with, left to right, moderator Ron Jackson (DNJournal.com) Amanda Waltz (Waltz Digitital Media), Dave Evanson (Sedo), Mark Daniel (Domain Holdings) and Steve Miholovich (NameArena.com) opened a lot eyes, making it one the most interesting discussions of the week. 

The problems, especially in international transactions, stem from the fact that laws governing trademarks, contracts, currency exchange and money laundering vary wildly from one country or region to another. Having cryptocurrency involved in more transactions has also compounded those complexities. With big sums of money involved, identifying who is responsible for disbursing funds and who is legally able to sign off on a domain transfer can come into play as well. A good way to get up to speed on all of this is to Google "Know Your Customer" for details and, or course, consult a good broker. An attorney versed in these issues would be a very good idea too, especially since a mistake can derail a deal for weeks, months, even years in some cases - or sink it all together.

Above: The afternoon coffee break was going on while I was on stage, so I didn't get to make my usual visit to the Exhibit Hall but my wife, Diana, did. As a fan of swag I wasn't surprised to see she was attracted to the massive pile of Atom.com T-shirts at the company's booth!

Below: Since she Diana is also an artist, I was also not surprised that the brilliant graphics at the Sedo booth caught her eye! They were a perfect choice for matching Miami and NamesCon's street art vibe.

Above: Back in the conference hall, my 2nd session with top tier brokers got underway at 3:45pm. It featured, left to right, moderator Ron Jackson, Mark "Mr. Premium" Ghoriafi (Sedo), Daniel Koleshchuk (Hilco Digital Assets) and Jeff Gabriel (Saw.com). This one centered on a topic that never goes out of style -  What’s Flying Off the Shelf (and What’s Collecting Dust). As you would expect, we all agreed on the obvious - top tier .com and .ai domains were red hot, but we then dug under the surface to get opinions on how the long the boom for the .ai TLD could last, what specific kinds of .com domains were doing well, where there might be opportunities in others areas like ccTLDs and some non .com gTLDs and why many TLDS languish (a common denominator being high renewal fees that make holding most of those names for a long period a bad bet for investors).

Above: Before the final business session of NamesCon Global 2025 got underway, we had just enough time to dash outside and catch a few rounds of the USA Server Throwing Championship! That's right, it's a full blown sport now - one that looks like an oblique injury waiting to happen but still very cool to watch. I haven't heard who wound up winning but this particular toss by Ted Brown (Server Factory) looked like it would beat 99% of the male population in America!

Above: NamesCon made a good choice for the final business session at this year's conference, calling in, from left to right, moderator Braden Pollock, Symbolics.com owner Aron Meystedt and NamesCon Founder Richard Lau to talk about The Domain Market: 40 Years in the Making. We looked at this year's conference from a historical perspective and we can look at the entire industry from that same viewpoint with Aron at this year's show. With Symbolics.com he owns the very first .com domain ever registered on the Internet. It happened in 1985, 40 years ago as of March 15th. What has happened since is simply astonishing. Aron, Richard and Braden shared stories from their decades in the business and what may be in store for us in the decades ahead. We'll circle back around to you in 2065 and let you know how it all turned out!

One other note about NamesCon's agenda choices. I though Program Director Sam Schwarz and his team did a great job in putting the schedule together.  All of the sessions were highly relevant to what is going on in this industry today and I liked that they were on a single track so they got the undivided attention they deserved. Another shout out goes to Murphy Pressley who was my primary contact in the months leading up to the show - Murphy was always easy to work with and answer any questions that came up as show plans developed throughout the year.

Above: Now, with business out of the way it was time to party! NamesCon Global had a special place in mind for it too. Thursday night, November 6 it was off to Wynwood Walls, Miami's original Street Art Museum. Serving stations piled high with local delicacies were scattered around the colorful grounds, the bars were open, live music was blasting and the night was beautiful (as was the company).

Below: Diana and I with our friends Ray & Barbara Neu at Wynwood Walls. Barbara celebrated a birthday this week and on this night, Joe Alagna (.it.com Domains) surprised her with a birthday cake (I would show you a picture but it was gone before I got there!)  Barbara is one of the most thoughtful people in the world but Joe is right up there too, He remembered that several years ago his birthday fell on a day he was at one of the conferences that the Neus staged in Florida. Barbara heard about it and had a cake brought in for him and he never forgot that. It's an example of what I always say about this being a great community of friends - not just business colleagues. 

Above: Peter Nein chatting with friends in front of one of the street art walls that the Wynwood museum is famous for.

Below: NamesCon flew a band from Barcelona, Spain - the Serial Killerz - in to play at their closing night party. Wynwood Walls doesn't have a courtyard roof but if they did it would have been blown off!

Above: With the Serial Killerz on stage, I guess you could call this crowd the Serial Domainers (it doesn't have quite the same ring to it but I bet someone registers it anyhow! Hint, it's available in .com as I write this and I'm passing.) No matter - that's a wrap and the bow goes on what proved to be an impressive package in Miami. (Photo credit: Eddie Sixto).

As far as the tradeoffs from going offsite from the hotel, attendees have received surveys and NamesCon organizers will pay attention to all the feedback on what guests liked and what they would like to see different next year. For me, the most important thing always comes down to two things. Did I get to see most of the people I wanted to see and did I make some new friends and contacts that will add to my appreciation for this business and life in general in the years ahead? If those things happened it was time and money well spent. So far, looking back 21 years to T.R.A.F.F.I.C 2004 and every conference since then including NamesCon Global 2025, I'm still batting 1.000 on that count, so you've got a happy camper here. Thanks to NamesCom for the memories, the candid look at where we are today and the exciting peak into the great possibilities still ahead for all of us!

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